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Fiscal 4Q 2017 Ultimate Estimates



As of Friday’s market shut of $164.05, AAPL is buying and selling at a 15.1x a number of on my next-twelve-months EPS estimate (12.0x when excluding next-12m internet money and div).

I made a decision to problem myself by posting my last estimates almost two months as a substitute of the standard two weeks or so earlier than the report as a result of the occasions throughout these two months (keynote, launch, ramp, and report) seem like a few of the most influential for Apple in years, with important particulars like exact launch timing, product pricing, reception and provide sufficiency, all useful in accurately estimating the ultimate few days of Fiscal 2017, the preliminary form of the a lot hyped 2018 supercycle, and a primary glimpse into the kind of powerful evaluate arguments wanting into 2019 that inevitably shall be raised as quickly as Q1 steering is offered (the truth is this has already been occurring).

It might appear counter-productive to try estimates earlier than all of the crucial occasions and data are up to now and may get digested and distilled into my mannequin. Why not simply do as regular and incorporate all of it in mid October? There’d be completely no danger to the accuracy of my last estimates by ready. Quite the opposite, popping out early leaves the forecast on the mercy of a few of my most subjective, maybe some conservative, others extra hopeful, and presumably even just a few strained assumptions. Like, what if the launch is on the final two days of This fall and never the week earlier than? Or what if Apple proclaims record-smashing pre-orders or gross sales that may clearly name for changes in each This fall and Q1 numbers? Or if the occasion disappoints some tech pundits who take it to the interwebs with rage in opposition to Apple? (Okay that one’s a given, in fact.) Perhaps some manufacturing glitch turns up in early October and telephones begin blowing up in flames? OMG! (Although Samsung got here out almost unscathed from that, Apple can be crucified. However no, that will not occur.) Or, they name it the iFacePhone? *facepalm*


However significantly, why not get all of the potential info accessible earlier than the report? Nicely, that is exactly what I wished to check about my mannequin and assumptions, and no higher alternative than these two months earlier than this particular supercycle. I wished to check the worth of these assumptions and whether or not the forecast is fragile or sturdy in opposition to uncertainty, when missing the target factual particulars, however slightly primarily based on comparatively constant but subjective patterns, perceptions, hunches, and normally obscure however fairly smart (and most important IMO) notions of administration type, technique, priorities, and cultural values. Patterns, hunches, and notions which I rarely share or clarify at size (and I nonetheless will not) as a result of opinions are low cost and thus solely essentially the most facile, snarky, clickbait-ish, or plain-out nasty are those that get consideration (helped by each its proponents and detractors), and there is by no means any accountability for all this extremely prolific however wasteful punditry. Even the arduous chilly, principally non-opinionated sell-side analyst numbers wanting ahead 1 or 2 years are by no means judged and even examined after the info are recognized, with the most recent single-quarter revisions shouldering the only alternative for establishing any confidence within the cacophony of pivotal, normally existential, long-term judgments and predictions.

Oops, a little bit of a tangential rant there. Anyway, if I feel I can one way or the other mannequin Apple’s enterprise 2-3 years and even additional prematurely and hope to do it considerably reliably, it might solely be thanks to exactly this sort of intuitive grasp of the corporate, and never simply by being educated concerning the launch date or the precise pricing or the foolish title or the exact unlocking mechanism of the premium telephone. A lot much less by rigorously monitoring how far WS analysts elevate their estimates proper as much as the day of the report so one can align guesses round or simply forward of their herd-like habits. No, the added worth I intention to offer just isn’t attained by ready to gather all the data potential and after all of the occasions and knowable info are recognized, solely then produce an estimate, the best-informed one can produce. As a result of opposite to what monetary reporting (even the nice bits on the market) would counsel, the purpose is by no means to provide you with the most effective prediction for the most recent three-month interval, which the truth is has minimal affect on the inventory’s valuation. As an alternative, it is to one way or the other develop an image as real looking as potential of what the subsequent 5-10 years will appear to be, this certainly representing the majority of an funding’s intrinsic worth. So, my insights (or lack thereof) into that longer-term future can solely be appreciated after I’m pressured into baking-in some hunches and plenty of hopefully educated guesses into the mannequin, and as soon as some short-term occasions and outcomes that truly rely on a few of these assumptions are revealed one could possibly assign the correct degree of confidence for these longer-term projections which do inform the worth of an organization.

Okay sufficient justification on this loopy foolish guessing recreation. In any case, I am going to do no matter, and it’s best to all the time do your personal work, by no means assume I am right here to do it for you. In actual fact, assume I am simply making an attempt to have enjoyable. And nothing’s extra enjoyable and rewarding than making an attempt to guess the end-of-year stuff properly at the beginning will get revealed, similar to the enjoyment of Christmas and Santa is all about basking within the build-up of expectations and the joys of surprises.

Sorry for the lengthy philosophical dissertation. On this particular forecast (see under), appears WS analysts ought to elevate Q1 consensus as soon as they see steering, which can possible make them elevate the remainder of the yr in tandem, up till the top of January when Q2 steering is given. Then, that Q2 steering might come as a slight miss (Q2-This fall expectations already considerably elevated properly earlier than a hypothetical response to Q1 steering upside) and set off a wholesome reset on these expectations. Or maybe I am only a bit low and all shall be good. We’ll have to attend and see how these dynamics play out in October and January.

I am going to spare you any extra commentary on the present and subsequent quarters as there can be an excessive amount of to cowl, apart from this which final time I promised to reiterate: Fiscal 2019 consensus estimates of not less than mid single-digits development appear key for continued inventory appreciation. These shall be publicly accessible in monetary websites after This fall will get reported (possible on Oct 31). In fact, Dec quarter steering given that very same day is immensely necessary, however everybody already is aware of this. Proper? Okay. Simply keep in mind to additionally get a peek at 2019 estimates then, and perhaps enable a pair weeks for analysts’ mannequin updates to trickle by way of the information companies to see how these evolve early on.

Keep in mind, these 2019 expectations would be the foundation of a “powerful evaluate” bearish case introduced up in opposition to Apple, simply as within the 2015 high, and until tax reform will get handed or double-digit development from the supercycle prolongs into 2019 (an affordable chance), it’s going to certainly play a task in opposition to investor’s confidence within the firm’s mid-term prospects.

Detailed estimates:

3mo ending Sep-2017  Rev($M)  GM(%)  EPS($)
-------------------  -------  -----  ------
Analysts consensus    51,090      -   1.88
Apple information low       49,000   37.5   1.75*
Apple information excessive      52,000   38.0   1.93*
My estimates          51,574   38.1   1.92 (5.19b shares)


3mo ending Dec-2017  Rev($M)  GM(%)   EPS($)
-------------------  -------  -----   ------
Analysts consensus    86,860      -    3.83
Apple information low (e)   85,000   38.0    3.69*
Apple information excessive(e)   87,000   39.0    3.91*
My estimates          87,349   39.4    3.98 (5.13b shares)

*EPS steering ranges derived from different figures offered
 by Apple and diluted shares excellent estimated by me


12m ending Sep-2018  Rev($M)  EPS($)
-------------------  -------  ------
Analysts consensus   261,980   10.88
My estimates         259,669   10.88


Valuation (fwd-12mo from)  EPS($)   Y/Y  10x  Money*  Div  Tot
-------------------------  ------  ----  ---  ----  ----  ---
Trailing       (Oct-2016)    9.04    9%   90    29  2.40  122
Truthful Worth     (Oct-2017)   10.88   20%  109    31  2.64  143
1yr Goal     (Oct-2018)   11.46    5%  115    36  2.96  154

* Money per share stability internet of long-term debt

(click on to enlarge)

F4Q17 Income breakdown:
iPhone    30,041 (47.5 × $632)
iPad       4,541 (10.5 × $432)
Mac        6,666 (5.05 × $1,320)
Providers   7,548
Different      2,742 ( 3.0 × $391 = 1,172 Watch)

Revenue assertion:
Income   51,574
COGS     (31,928)
GM        19,647  38.1%

OpEx     ( 6,784)
OpInc     12,863  24.9%

OIE          505
Pre-tax   13,368

Tax      ( 3,409) 25.5%
NetInc     9,959  19.3%

Shares     5,189
EPS        $1.92

(quantities in thousands and thousands besides $ASP, $EPS, and ratios%)

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